Us and Them; Do you remember that day? 1

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  1. yemenreform

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    Us and Them

    In a few cases, modern Orthodoxy’s line-drawing has been implicated in some truly horrifying events. Yigal Amir, the assassin of Yitzhak Rabin, was a modern Orthodox Jew who believed that Rabin’s peace efforts put him into the Talmudic category of one who may be freely executed because he is in the act of killing Jews. In 1994, Dr. Baruch Goldstein massacred 29 worshipers in the mosque atop the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron. An American-born physician, Goldstein attended a prominent modern Orthodox Jewish day school in Brooklyn. (In a classic modern Orthodox twist, the same distinguished school has also produced two Nobel Prize winners.)

    Because of the proximity of Goldstein’s background and mine, the details of his reasoning have haunted me. Goldstein committed his terrorist act on Purim, the holiday commemorating the victory of the Jews over Haman, traditionally said to be a descendant of the Amalekites. The previous Sabbath, he sat in synagogue and heard the special additional Torah portion for the day, which includes the famous injunction in the Book of Deuteronomy to remember what the Amalekites did to the Israelites on their way out of Egypt and to erase the memory of Amalek from beneath the heavens.

    This commandment was followed by a further reading from the Book of Samuel. It details the first intentional and explicit genocide depicted in the Western canon: God’s directive to King Saul to kill every living Amalekite — man, woman and child, and even the sheep and cattle. Saul fell short. He left the Amalekite king alive and spared the sheep. As a punishment for the incompleteness of the slaughter, God took the kingdom from him and his heirs and gave it to David. I can remember this portion verbatim. That Saturday, like Goldstein, I was in synagogue, too.

    Of course as a matter of Jewish law, the literal force of the biblical command of genocide does not apply today. The rabbis of the Talmud, in another of their universalizing legal rulings, held that because of the Assyrian King Sennacherib’s policy of population movement at the time of the First Temple, it was no longer possible to ascertain who was by descent an Amalekite. But as a schoolboy I was taught that the story of Amalek was about not just historical occurrence but cyclical recurrence: “In every generation, they rise up against us to destroy us, but the Holy One, blessed be He, saves us from their hands.” The Jews’ enemies today are the Amalekites of old. The inquisitors, the Cossacks — Amalekites. Hitler was an Amalekite, too.

    To Goldstein, the Palestinians were Amalekites. Like a Puritan seeking the contemporary type of the biblical archetype, he applied Deuteronomy and Samuel to the world before him. Commanded to settle the land, he settled it. Commanded to slaughter the Amalekites without mercy or compassion, he slew them. Goldstein could see difference as well as similarity. According to one newspaper account, when he was serving in the Israeli military, he refused to treat non-Jewish patients. And his actions were not met by universal condemnation: his gravestone describes him as a saint and a martyr of the Jewish people, “Clean of hands and pure of heart.”

    It would be a mistake to blame messianic modern Orthodoxy for ultranationalist terror. But when the evil comes from within your own midst, the soul searching needs to be especially intense. After the Hebron massacre, my own teacher, the late Israeli scholar and poet Ezra Fleischer — himself a paragon of modern Orthodox commitment — said that the innocent blood of the Palestinian worshipers dripped through the stones and formed tears in the eyes of the Patriarchs buried below.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/22/m...r=1&oref=slogin&ref=magazine&pagewanted=print
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  3. Asgarnia Lord

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    Is he saying that the amalkites " currently palastinians" are the original settlers of the land and he came to slay them????

    Amalekites existed as early as the time of Abraham, in the region that would later become the Roman province of Arabia Petraea

    In Jewish tradition, the Amalekites came to represent the archetypal enemy of the Jews. For example, Haman, from the Book of Esther, is called the Agagite, which is interpreted as being a descendant of the Amalekite king Agag.
     
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  5. keep it real

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    thanks for the useful information
    you know i beat the hell out of a jewish guy when i was younger
    he was in my class
    allah yiktob alajr
    lol
     
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  7. Rita Alshoaibi

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    thanks for sharing and ur always good informations - i like to read them

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  9. yemenreform

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    Sorry, I didn't have much time Yesterday to type this.

    It is interesting how all these people think they are better than everybody on the planet. I guess Muslims and other faiths have a similar issue considering that their people are the only ones going to heaven. It is funny how all our religions teach accepting good and refusing evil while some of the worst wars and massacres were started by religion.

    If you read the whole article (too long) you would have a read the section where he describes an incident about how doctors are not allowed to break a Sabbath (Saturday) rule of no work unless they are trying to save a Jewish life. They made an exception to this rule for doctors in America to maintain good relations with other faiths. Not because a non-Jewish life is equally worthy of life.

    Its interesting how a doctor would refuse treatment to a suffering creature because he is not Jewish on a Sabbath. I think the sense of superiority is just outrageous. This Medical doctor (Goldstein) from brooklyn, USA is another Orthodox Jew. He did not treat no Jews on the Sabbath. He was a well educated man that killed 29 people while they were kneeling to pray.

    This reminds of the doctors from Britain that are suspected of committing terrorist acts.
     

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